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1 Hydroquinone mixed with mequinol? on Tue May 11, 2010 2:54 pm

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What are your thoughts on this? What if I should mix Nadinola and 20 grams of MQ together along with RA? Anyone tried this before? Let me know what you think.

2 Re: Hydroquinone mixed with mequinol? on Tue May 11, 2010 11:16 pm

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I haven't tried it, but I will try contacting a few derms and chemists about this mix and if it is possibly effective or not.


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3 Re: Hydroquinone mixed with mequinol? on Wed May 12, 2010 8:39 am

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Wow GG, keep us posted. I heard of someone using all three formulas, HQ4%, MQ10 & Ra. I am willing to try it if there are no great side effects.

4 Re: Hydroquinone mixed with mequinol? on Wed May 12, 2010 12:21 pm

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I am not sure why you want to do this allure? Retin a with MQ works, been done, and studied extensively, HQ with retin a also shown to be effective.

Now Mq is stronger than Hq, hence faster results, like mono is faster than Mq, why would you want to mix mq with Hq? It is like mixing mono with Mq?? There is no point, plus mixing two different ingredients which have not been studied to be mixed, you risk other complications, sometimes things work better alone, once you mix them other things might happen.

5 Re: Hydroquinone mixed with mequinol? on Wed May 12, 2010 1:53 pm

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Oh Sara thanks for your thoughts. I read somewhere where someone was doing this. I was not about to embark on something that could be potentially dangerous, but wanted to find out more about the chemical reactions etc. What I was thinking is getting more for my buck and having my mixture last a lot longer. Again I would not venture out on unsolicited territory with proper research. LOL

6 Re: Hydroquinone mixed with mequinol? on Wed May 12, 2010 9:03 pm

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I have read the mequinol being used with gel being it's vehicle may be more effective than mequinol in a cream or lotion base, althouigh both can be effective.


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7 Re: Hydroquinone mixed with mequinol? on Thu May 13, 2010 9:34 am

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Interesting GG, what what kind of gel? Should I just get the pure kind such a fruits of the earth aloe? Or Johnsons body gel?

8 Re: Hydroquinone mixed with mequinol? on Thu May 13, 2010 10:14 am

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That could be right GG, Gel has high alcohol content ,I think the effectiveness of solage is due its high alcohol content, although it is mainly 2% but it has 77% alcohol, which means all the 2% is totally absorbed.

I tried high alcohol content with my mono, not that high but up to 20% but alcohol and mono is very strong stuff, it is very irritant so I cut down but I know the speed was much faster with high alcohol content.

Both Mq and Mono dissolve in ethanol, I know that Mq is less harsh than mono but trying high alcohol content is better option for faster, the problem is that most of the Mq you guys get it is already peppered. Adding alcohol on top will just not work.

9 Re: Hydroquinone mixed with mequinol? on Thu May 13, 2010 10:16 am

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allure wrote:Oh Sara thanks for your thoughts. I read somewhere where someone was doing this. I was not about to embark on something that could be potentially dangerous, but wanted to find out more about the chemical reactions etc. What I was thinking is getting more for my buck and having my mixture last a lot longer. Again I would not venture out on unsolicited territory with proper research. LOL



I know hun, you are just thinking loud, I was also thinking loud, was I shouting?? lol

10 Re: Hydroquinone mixed with mequinol? on Thu May 13, 2010 2:18 pm

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LOL @ Sara. More like shouting aloud. Hahahhaha. Natural skin gels such as fruit of the earth does not contain alcohol, right? If memory serves me right I don't think it does. But that's a thought and thanks guys for the great tips!

11 Re: Hydroquinone mixed with mequinol? on Thu May 13, 2010 11:28 pm

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I agree Sara, ethanol I see is most preferred. I onder how well this wil work with hq + ethanol as well. So the higher alcohol content promotes better absorption? interesting.

Allure I'm unsure about the aloe gel and gels already made. But, I was thinking of a homemade concoction of perhaps mequinol powder, ethanol, and gelling agents like carbomer and xanthum gum.


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12 Re: Hydroquinone mixed with mequinol? on Fri May 14, 2010 9:33 am

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GG do you want me to blow up my house? LMAO!! I would rather let the experts do this for me. I am not able to do it because of the kids and my nosy hubby. Seeing that ethanol promotes absorption, I might have to get it because the mix of my MQ and eucerin with ra stinks to high heaven. Good gosh...rotten eggs! I am thinking that it is urea in the eucerin along with the MQ that is wreaking havoc on my nostrils! I can't wait to finish the darn thing now....but my goodness I am getting even better results than my first mixture!

13 Re: Hydroquinone mixed with mequinol? on Fri May 14, 2010 11:36 am

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Sorry allure I didn’t mean to shout, I do get excited tough [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

GG not just ethanol, the main factor is solubility, and both mono and Mq dissolve in ethanol, HQ dissolve in water which is great, ethanol can be very irritant to skin combined with chemicals.

14 Re: Hydroquinone mixed with mequinol? on Fri May 14, 2010 11:41 am

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allure wrote:GG do you want me to blow up my house? LMAO!! I would rather let the experts do this for me. I am not able to do it because of the kids and my nosy hubby. Seeing that ethanol promotes absorption, I might have to get it because the mix of my MQ and eucerin with ra stinks to high heaven. Good gosh...rotten eggs! I am thinking that it is urea in the eucerin along with the MQ that is wreaking havoc on my nostrils! I can't wait to finish the darn thing now....but my goodness I am getting even better results than my first mixture!
Yup urea is great for dermal absorption, will write list of the vehicles for dermal absorption

15 Re: Hydroquinone mixed with mequinol? on Fri May 14, 2010 3:50 pm

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Oh that would be super great Sara. Then I will know what to look for in the ingredient lists!! I can't wait! But oh Lord, it really heightens the smell of MQ! Ew[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] LOL.
Don't feel bad about getting excited, I like that when people are excited and look out for each other!

16 Re: Hydroquinone mixed with mequinol? on Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:39 am

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sara wrote: I am not sure why you want to do this allure? Retin a with MQ works, been done, and studied extensively, HQ with retin a also shown to be effective.

Now Mq is stronger than Hq, hence faster results, like mono is faster than Mq, why would you want to mix mq with Hq? It is like mixing mono with Mq?? There is no point, plus mixing two different ingredients which have not been studied to be mixed, you risk other complications, sometimes things work better alone, once you mix them other things might happen.

thats interesting...why not? I'm currently using mequinol with other lighteners...I've tried used mequinol with Tretinoin alone...it didn't produce great results when used on a daily bases...however I find that it works best when used once or twice a week!

for me when used to often there was alot of redness irritation and some serious hyperpigmentation!

but now that I'm using it with the kligman formula, and some of the Arbutine Complex (which I dont think is helping that much) I'm wielding better results!

however due to my kamikaze routine in the past with fair and flawless (couldn't afford them aanymore!), and mequinol and Tretinoin my skin has been thinned a bit...to the point where i ccan no longer wear jeans pants as they tend to bruise my legs only after an hour of wear...the constant chafing..

so right now I'm using Kligman's formula (hydroquinone, tretinoin, neoprosone) which is working quite well! however due to all the scars from the damage my jeans did to my legs I have alot of hyper pigmentation to get rid of on my legs...but tretinoin is magic I'm being patient! I need to be consistant with my rroutine but if I apply twice a day but the end of the week my new lighter skin gets very red! so red that it looks like my color came back but it didnt! I just cant stand the redness it looks like I just got out of a fight! I think its the neoprosone(steroid) or a burn due to the tretinoin...I'm not sure

oh by the way I went from a jannet jackson color to right now a few shades rihanna and yes people are talking!

so far its going good some days are a better than others and there are days when my skin looks great...and there are days when its like blah!! but there are some resistant areas on my body and I still have uneveness! I wanna get rid of all of that...I know this regimen takes like a year to whiten one's entire skin tone but I cant help but think that I need some assistance with some thing stronger...thats why I ordered some mono!

DONT SHOOT! lol

17 Re: Hydroquinone mixed with mequinol? on Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:51 am

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sara wrote:That could be right GG, Gel has high alcohol content ,I think the effectiveness of solage is due its high alcohol content, although it is mainly 2% but it has 77% alcohol, which means all the 2% is totally absorbed.

I tried high alcohol content with my mono, not that high but up to 20% but alcohol and mono is very strong stuff, it is very irritant so I cut down but I know the speed was much faster with high alcohol content.

based on my research and the people I've spoken too, um in theory...well not only in theory there is evidentiary support for this, however finding the exact statistics have proven to be rather difficult lol as no one really cares about funding studies to find a safe and effective way to depigment regular skinned individuals!

but using mono with in retin A should produce a significat differnce in the results as to just using mono on its own...I'm not sure if using hydroquinone with it would do much...it might help then again it might not...but um...ya I'm gonna expierment with mono a little bit cause there is some stuff I really want gone...however mono travels through the anotomy...so lets say you apply some on your leg..ya that could start to depigment but so could some other random spot on your body...

however in theory again...since tretinoin acts as a pentran and speeds up cell turn over...it could speed up the results of mono to the point where you could accomplish your goal before there is any damage and appart from that tretinoin does wonders for damage control where hydroquinone, steroids, and mequinol are concered...who's to say it wont do the same for monobenzone! remember this stuff has never been tried before...again no one cares about a bunch of dark skinned people lightening their skin, except for Dr. thienna who is really making a furtune off of poor misinformed people! sulfur will NOT lighten your skin to a noticable extent period!

but yes! this is an exciting a trip! have you all started with your mono yet...cause I'm gonna start really soon I gonna use it with tretinoin...

if you all have...how has it been going for you?

Both Mq and Mono dissolve in ethanol, I know that Mq is less harsh than mono but trying high alcohol content is better option for faster, the problem is that most of the Mq you guys get it is already peppered. Adding alcohol on top will just not work.

18 Re: Hydroquinone mixed with mequinol? on Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:54 am

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sorry about that Sara...my post got intertwined with yours by accident let me repost:

I tried high alcohol content with my mono, not that high but up to 20% but alcohol and mono is very strong stuff, it is very irritant so I cut down but I know the speed was much faster with high alcohol content.

based on my research and the people I've spoken too, um in theory...well not only in theory there is evidentiary support for this, however finding the exact statistics have proven to be rather difficult lol as no one really cares about funding studies to find a safe and effective way to depigment regular skinned individuals!

but using mono with in retin A should produce a significat differnce in the results as to just using mono on its own...I'm not sure if using hydroquinone with it would do much...it might help then again it might not...but um...ya I'm gonna expierment with mono a little bit cause there is some stuff I really want gone...however mono travels through the anotomy...so lets say you apply some on your leg..ya that could start to depigment but so could some other random spot on your body...

however in theory again...since tretinoin acts as a pentran and speeds up cell turn over...it could speed up the results of mono to the point where you could accomplish your goal before there is any damage and appart from that tretinoin does wonders for damage control where hydroquinone, steroids, and mequinol are concered...who's to say it wont do the same for monobenzone! remember this stuff has never been tried before...again no one cares about a bunch of dark skinned people lightening their skin, except for Dr. thienna who is really making a furtune off of poor misinformed people! sulfur will NOT lighten your skin to a noticable extent period!

but yes! this is an exciting a trip! have you all started with your mono yet...cause I'm gonna start really soon I gonna use it with tretinoin...

if you all have...how has it been going for you?

19 Re: Hydroquinone mixed with mequinol? on Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:21 am

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HI sweetie Enticing,


Only this morning I was going to pm ondine and see if she had heard from you and lo and behold, I find you here !!

sara is away on holiday, so you may have to wait a while to get a response I am afraid. I know that there are others interested in mono, but I believe at present she is the only one who has actually used it here.

Don't worry I won't shoot you for yor choice. I am sure you have done your reading and understand the problems asscociated. Besides I know what you are like in terms of making up your mind. I also trust that you have managed to find a reliable legit source for your mono.

Let us know how you get on.

20 Re: Hydroquinone mixed with mequinol? on Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:28 am

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Why is it so hard to find real before and after pics of people claiming to have sucessfully used monobenzone??


Oo Enticing Good Luck Very Happy

21 Re: Hydroquinone mixed with mequinol? on Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:38 pm

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but now that I'm using it with the kligman formula, and some of the Arbutine Complex (which I dont think is helping that much) I'm wielding better results!

however due to my kamikaze routine in the past with fair and flawless (couldn't afford them aanymore!), and mequinol and Tretinoin my skin has been thinned a bit...to the point where i ccan no longer wear jeans pants as they tend to bruise my legs only after an hour of wear...the constant chafing..

so right now I'm using Kligman's formula (hydroquinone, tretinoin, neoprosone) which is working quite well! however due to all the scars from the damage my jeans did to my legs I have alot of hyper pigmentation to get rid of on my legs...but tretinoin is magic I'm being patient! I need to be consistant with my rroutine but if I apply twice a day but the end of the week my new lighter skin gets very red! so red that it looks like my color came back but it didnt! I just cant stand the redness it looks like I just got out of a fight! I think its the neoprosone(steroid) or a burn due to the tretinoin...I'm not sure

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enticing could you explain what the neoprosone is for. I am still deciding on what to try on my face. I was thinking about trying makari again with retin A but have also thought about the retin A with hq, but have not come across this neoprosone.

22 Re: Hydroquinone mixed with mequinol? on Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:57 pm

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MAHARANI wrote:HI sweetie Enticing,


Only this morning I was going to pm ondine and see if she had heard from you and lo and behold, I find you here !!

sara is away on holiday, so you may have to wait a while to get a response I am afraid. I know that there are others interested in mono, but I believe at present she is the only one who has actually used it here.

Don't worry I won't shoot you for yor choice. I am sure you have done your reading and understand the problems asscociated. Besides I know what you are like in terms of making up your mind. I also trust that you have managed to find a reliable legit source for your mono.

Let us know how you get on.


OHHHHHHHH MYYYY DEAR!!! MY DEAR!!! SOOO NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU!

yes Ondine and I have been talking and discovering some very very very interesting things! but shhhh!!! all in god time my beautiful MAHARANI! I will be putting up a video and I will ask Ondine and lightenNlif to let the members of skin care know!

I'm done with skincare talk, I've been banned one to many times for standing up for my self and other people who contribute intellectually and positively to the forum. I'm so tired of the ignorance, favoritism and blatant assults!

I'm going to be a full time member at skinphilosophy from now on! I've been reading the posts...people here are intellegent they posses a great level of couth.

I'm so tired of the newbies, homophobia and the disgusting attitudes at skincaretalk, I dont need them, I only converse with a handful of people there and I dont need skincaretalk to do that...I'm tring to encurage lightenNlift and Ondine to come over here I know they'd love this environemnt much better!

23 Re: Hydroquinone mixed with mequinol? on Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:02 pm

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dizzellz112 wrote:Why is it so hard to find real before and after pics of people claiming to have sucessfully used monobenzone??


Oo Enticing Good Luck Very Happy

Hi! you dont know me but MAHARANI does! I usually post video's talking about my regimen and results and all! so very sooon I will post a video with alot to say!

and if mono is ok (I will be using it with caustion and I will attempt to apply the theories of dr. Oz and others) I will let the forum know!

I am soooo happy to be a part of this forum! ALSO I'M DIE'EN TO GET TO KNOW GOLDEN GIRL! SHE'S SEEMS LIKE ANOTHER ONDINE! SO KNOWLEDGEABLE AND SOPHISTICATED!

24 Re: Hydroquinone mixed with mequinol? on Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:16 pm

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enticing could you explain what the neoprosone is for. I am still deciding on what to try on my face. I was thinking about trying makari again with retin A but have also thought about the retin A with hq, but have not come across this neoprosone.

hey Kim! the NEOPROSONE GEL FORTE is a gel which contains Betamethasone and Neomycin Sulphate! what Ondine and I were tring to do is use kligman's formula for depigmentation. (kligman's formula consists of Hydroquinone, Tretinoin and a potent steroid)

Betamethasone is steroid by the way and Neomycin assists!

What the steroid does is increase in the inhibiting action of hydroquinone! thus speads up the depigmentation process! unfortuanately the company which manufactures neoprosone (the one we use and is the only one that works!)has stopped! you can still purchase Neoprosone forte gel online but you'll only be able to do so until the stores run out of it! however Ondine and I have discovered other forms of steroid that are just as or even more effective off of alldaychemist! that even makes it easier as we order our hydroquinone and Tretinoin off that site! Very Happy its called Mometasone Fumerate!

25 Re: Hydroquinone mixed with mequinol? on Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:37 pm

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I'm SOOO HAPPY Golden Girl and MAHARANI are moderators here! finally people with good sense!

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