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1 Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Fri May 14, 2010 6:39 pm

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Just wanted to show Sammy Sosa is getting darker so whatever he used it was only temporary. But Sammy's skin hasn't darkened to his original color yet, he is still lighter.


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26 Re: Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Tue May 18, 2010 2:49 am

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The only things I'm sure work are ret a, hq, meq, fair and flawless, and fair and white so I'll probably buy one of those

It seem as though hydroquinone really is the "gold standard" to lightening the skin. Although mono and mq are by far not hq, they are also hq derivatives. Brands like nadinola, fair & white, melalite, neo strata to name a few all contain hq being it's active ingredient. And more "natural" derivatives such as arbutin/bearberry and syntheitic arbutin aka alpha arbutin which do help lighten, but are not as potent as hq.

And the more "natural" fair & flawless/pure perfect and makari being of more "natural" skin lightening brands that has been shown to give skin lightening are set their prices so high making it difficult for many to reach or at most maintain the results with these brands.

The sepiwhite is really a great lightener according to test P&G did around 2006 but it worked best when combined with- now I'm goinng to mispells
It- nycadimean (?). Darn I soooo spelt it wrong but there is something in particular sepi works best with. The biolcair stuff scares me and f&w works but redarkens very quickly when nolonger using it. I really wanna try ff but d**n gina those prices......

27 Re: Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Tue May 18, 2010 8:05 am

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LOL @ the photos !! How gullible do they think we really are ? I am just glad that I have the oppportunity to warn others about these products, so we don't line these people's pockets further. I would not be surprised if it DID in fact contain all those harmful ingredients you mentioned, the smell was truly awful !!!

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28 Re: Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Tue May 18, 2010 11:46 am

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LOL @ the photos !! How gullible do they think we really are ?
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There are a lot, when I first I looked into mono there was only one scam forum, and the few members were sellers. They posted pictures with great lightening and it sold it for me at the time, luckily the decision to use mono took its time with me, which was great.

I now look back at this scam, and really get shocked that people still buying from that scam, even with enormous bad feedback all over forums. I think with skin lightning comes a lot of emotional issues, mainly desperation.

29 Re: Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Tue May 18, 2010 12:35 pm

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Skin lightening can be very personal for many and these companies know this. Maybe if skin lightening was more mainstream like tanning creams there would less scams

30 Re: Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Tue May 18, 2010 12:41 pm

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Alizee love wrote:Skin lightening can be very personal for many and these companies know this. Maybe if skin lightening was more mainstream like tanning creams there would less scams
That is true but we can only wish it will never happen.

31 Re: Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Tue May 18, 2010 7:01 pm

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The sepiwhite is really a great lightener according to test P&G did around 2006 but it worked best when combined with- now I'm goinng to mispells
It- nycadimean (?). Darn I soooo spelt it wrong but there is something in particular sepi works best with. The biolcair stuff scares me and f&w works but redarkens very quickly when nolonger using it. I really wanna try ff but d**n gina those prices......

Yes, your referring to Niacinamide which is vitamin B3. Which relly interests me since the studies done on sepiwhite/undecylenoyl phenylalanine, niacinamide can help prevent some melanin on it's own but works great when combined with other whitening agents. Which brings me to this question, how come fair & flawless is generally known to work well with skin lightening due to their claimed use of sepiwhite, and yet many of their skin lighteners do not use the ingredient niacinamide (nor any mention of "vitamin B3") and yet still lighten?

F&F products without niacinamide, but has sepiwhite:
-Facial Lightening Cream
-15% Active PH 5.5XF Ultra Concentrated Skin Whitening Gel
-Body Lightening & Suntan Removal Cream
-Skin Soho White Tea Lightening Gelée
-Skin Soho Cocktail Serum: Facial Lightening Serum
-Skin Soho™ Facial Lightening Parfait: Pregnancy Mask Treatment
-80xF Facial Whitening Gel
-Fair & Flawless Super Spot Eraser
-Body Lightening & Suntan Removal Cream ("B1, B2, B5" are stated, but B3 isn't mentioned).

The only one I could find that mentioned niacinamide as one of the ingredients was the Crème` De` Laser.


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32 Re: Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Tue May 18, 2010 7:19 pm

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Since the skin lightening business is a billion dollar industry world-wide, the scammers and spammers may always linger around the corner, unfortunately. Because they take advantage of customers' and potential customers' desires to have lightened skin and many are willing to spend anything to achieve it. Some companies make false claims, that their produtcs/ingredients actually fail to deliver, sometimes including cheezy before/after photos. Some may lighten, but fail to disclose the dangers of the ingredients they choose to use that is actually making their products lighten skin. Some have hidden actives that are not mentioned and pass it off by saying it's just "arbutin", "kojic acid", or the likes. And then you have the companies that do sell safe and effective products, yet they lack to genuinly care for it's users as they so often claim. Instead several taking advantage of the opportunity to charge outrageous prices for a product that only had honestly taken $10-18 to actually make per jar.

The best we can do at the moment is to educate ourselves to the best of our knowledge on information available, weigh out our options, and decide if a certain product is something we are really interested in investing in...or practice making our own..lol


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33 Re: Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Tue May 18, 2010 7:42 pm

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The sepiwhite is really a great lightener according to test P&G did around 2006 but it worked best when combined with- now I'm goinng to mispells
It- nycadimean (?). Darn I soooo spelt it wrong but there is something in particular sepi works best with. The biolcair stuff scares me and f&w works but redarkens very quickly when nolonger using it. I really wanna try ff but d**n gina those prices......

Yes, your referring to Niacinamide which is vitamin B3. Which relly interests me since the studies done on sepiwhite/undecylenoyl phenylalanine, niacinamide can help prevent some melanin on it's own but works great when combined with other whitening agents. Which brings me to this question, how come fair & flawless is generally known to work well with skin lightening due to their claimed use of sepiwhite, and yet many of their skin lighteners do not use the ingredient niacinamide (nor any mention of "vitamin B3") and yet still lighten?


F&F products without niacinamide, but has sepiwhite:
-Facial Lightening Cream
-15% Active PH 5.5XF Ultra Concentrated Skin Whitening Gel
-Body Lightening & Suntan Removal Cream
-Skin Soho White Tea Lightening Gelée
-Skin Soho Cocktail Serum: Facial Lightening Serum
-Skin Soho™ Facial Lightening Parfait: Pregnancy Mask Treatment
-80xF Facial Whitening Gel
-Fair & Flawless Super Spot Eraser
-Body Lightening & Suntan Removal Cream ("B1, B2, B5" are stated, but B3 isn't mentioned).

The only one I could find that mentioned niacinamide as one of the ingredients was the Crème` De` Laser.


Well they do work by themselves but work much better when combined. If I'm not mistaken they only used 2% of each product on test subjects and I believe f&f uses 5% so maybe that's why they have good results *shrugs*

34 Re: Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Wed May 19, 2010 9:52 pm

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Speaking of Sammy, his new-new change has caught attention again on MSN website. I tell ya, really odd how when someones tans does't hit news like this. I'll post the article here:

"Sammy Sosa caused quite a stir last year when he showed up at the Latin Grammy’s with a jarringly lighter skin complexion. But as of last weekend, it seems Sammy has gone back to black.
It has some people questioning how a cream so powerful that it can bleach your entire face could wear off so completely--and so quickly.
Is it really possible? Absolutely.
Whether you’re using a prescription bleaching cream or an over-the-counter variety, there are no creams on the market that can permanently lighten your complexion. Sure, using bleaching creams repeatedly over a short period of time could give you the Sammy Sosa effect. But soon after you stop using them, your skin reverts back to its natural color. The real irony is that long-term abuse of many bleaching creams can actually lead to ochronosis--a darkening and thickening of the skin. So how do the creams work?
Well, first you need to understand what makes skin light or dark. Our skin color is determined by a pigment called melanin, produced by melanocytes (cells) in our skin. That pigment then gets bundled into little packages called melanosomes, which are shipped off to our skin cells and dispersed to produce what we know as our complexion.

Skin-lightening creams work in number of ways. Medications like hydroquinone and Arbutin work by inhibiting the enzymes that create melanin. Others, like soy and Retin A, inhibit the transfer of melanosomes to the skin cells. And some, like glycolic acids, exfoliate the skin to remove a layer of cells. They all work by targeting pigment and its production at different levels. But Dr. Eliot Battle, CEO and cosmetic dermatologist at the Cultura Dermatology and Laser Center in Washington, D.C., calls hydroquinone the “gold standard of bleaching creams.” It’s the most common and most effective, despite recent FDA findings that it can cause cancer in uncontrolled dosages.

Battle also notes that these creams are intended for medical use. They’re approved by the FDA to treat skin conditions such as abnormal skin spots. When it comes to removing spots caused by scarring, acne or other trauma to the skin, these products get the job done for good. Dr. Battle explains: “There’s a balance of how enzymes work--an equilibrium that our cells have, including the ones that make pigment. When we do something that takes them off balance, they want to get back to that equilibrium. When we try to lighten our entire complexions abnormally, our melanin production eventually goes back to normal. But when we treat skin cells after trauma or scarring, they’ve 'forgotten' what normal is, and these medications motivate the cells back to normal.” In other words, skin-bleaching creams can be permanent when it comes to removing abnormalities on your skin. But if you’re trying to change your entire complexion, it turns out your skin cells are creatures of habit. Eventually, they keep going back to your natural skin color. There are a number of unregulated over-the-counter bleaching creams that pour into the United States from all over the world. But buyer, beware. Some of these contain mercury, arsenic and other harmful ingredients. They might seem to lighten your skin more quickly and more permanently, but you could be putting poison on your face. It turns out that during the ‘50s and ‘60s, there were stronger bleaching creams available to patients in the United States with more serious skin conditions like vitiligo. According to Battle, these produced more permanent effects, but are now banned in America. But if you’re living in this decade and looking for a skin-lightening cream that’ll give you a milky complexion for good without any side effects, it sounds like you’re out of luck.

Shiwani Srivastava is a Seattle-based freelance writer covering South Asian-American community issues and cultural trends."
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35 Re: Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Wed May 19, 2010 10:44 pm

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Well it is very noticeable when someone as dark as sammy was lightens so drastically, maybe if he'd come out and admit it but he is entitled to his privacy

36 Re: Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Thu May 20, 2010 11:09 pm

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So what's the story here?  Does Sammy have some sort of pigmentation condition, or did he deliberately lighten his skin?

37 Re: Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Thu May 20, 2010 11:21 pm

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Really none of us know since he's ben mum on the matter. I suppose he could have a skin condition because I saw an older picture of him and his skin looked uneven in places; maybe makeup? Or he could just have uneven skin

38 Re: Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Fri May 21, 2010 8:22 pm

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Yes that is true. I hope he doesn't return to the greyish complexion, as it had looked unhealthy on him.


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Tretinoin/Retin-A 0.05% (exfoliant)
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39 Re: Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Fri May 21, 2010 10:24 pm

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That is so true, he reminded me of one of those people in central park painted silver lol

40 Re: Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Sat May 22, 2010 11:22 pm

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Alizee love wrote:That is so true, he reminded me of one of those people in central park painted silver lol

LOL!! Sorry, I had a good laugh on that one, silver sosa.


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41 Re: Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Sat May 22, 2010 11:40 pm

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Good, the world needs more laughter Very Happy

42 Re: Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Sat May 22, 2010 11:43 pm

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Oh and not to be too off topic but Sade got one of those BET award nominations. Cheers Very Happy

Oh and is more funny news so did justin bieber lol

43 Re: Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Sat May 22, 2010 11:57 pm

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YAAAYY!! Well, if she didn't BET would have definitely been hearing from me!

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44 Re: Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Sun May 23, 2010 12:32 am

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Lmao I don't know but oh to be a fly on the wall if he wins lol.

I really don't listen to rap, I prefer jpop,mylene/alizee,classic,some rock, 90s music(aqua), and cranberries along other things; but if Chris "beat 'em down" Brown had been nominated or win I would have been ever so p*ssed.

45 Re: Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Sun May 23, 2010 9:37 pm

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So, Alizee is a name of a singer? do you have a link?

46 Re: Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Sun May 23, 2010 10:58 pm

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Chris wrote:So what's the story here? Does Sammy have some sort of pigmentation condition, or did he deliberately lighten his skin?

I believe it is both. As Sammy does have hyperpigmentation problems and blemishes, but has also lightened his skin tone as well.


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47 Re: Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Mon May 24, 2010 3:41 pm

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LiteNYellow wrote:So, Alizee is a name of a singer? do you have a link?
Both.
It is my middle name and the name of a french singer. See L'Alize is a wind, the trade wind, and it is masculine. The name Alizee is fememine.L'alize is the name of a song and it somewhat autobiographical, she speaks of herself from the view of the wind.
One of the lines, "Je sais que cet hymen (I know this hymen or connection)/durera longtemps( will persevere for a long time)) is a homonym and it uses hymen in te french poetical sense meaning marriage or a connection and the literal meaning; there are a lot of play on words.
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One of my other favorites is Moi Lo Lita ( me, Lolita)
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48 Re: Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Mon May 24, 2010 8:28 pm

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Wow, really nice Alizee. There is a lot of deep thought and meaning to this.


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49 Re: Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Mon May 24, 2010 10:09 pm

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Yeah there is. Like in her song moi lo lita the ones " when I am ravaged in my dreams, it is Lola who bleeds" has a double meaning. It is a reference to her virginity, the guys who want her are like wolves and then a literal translation since it is a dream lol

50 Re: Sammy Sosa is getting darker now on Tue May 25, 2010 4:05 pm

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I know this is even more off topic but if you want a really beautiful song I would listen to this one called concerto pour deux voix ( concert for two voices) there are no words and is more of a vocal thing but Jean Baptiste maunier et Clémence Saint-Preux sound really good. Actually her father composed this song in '69.
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