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1 lightening progress on Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:51 pm

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lightening progress my bumblebees........... please share?
hows your lightening coming along and what r you using please share?


126 Re: lightening progress on Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:36 pm

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I forgot to add how important it is that you exfoliate, wear protective sunscreen 50 spf or higher, 70 would be better and use a good moisturizer

127 Re: lightening progress on Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:29 am

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Thank you guys, much appreciated!!

Well I am giving myself 4 months to achieve optimal results so I think that should be fine. I am 22 years old and I was wondering, if I use the retin (where can I get it? Is it readily avaliable?), not only will I get lighter but will also help with anti-agining? Am I not to young for anti-agining? Or is it a matter of prevention rather than cure?

Please can someone tell me roughly how the peels work and what they are for..

Thanks,

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128 Re: lightening progress on Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:48 am

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you can find retin a at alldaychemist and they come in different percentages.

and as for the peels it's supposed to remove the dead skin cells... hmmm, just think of like putting on lotion with your clothes on, thats the dead skin.

you can even make your own.

i use oatmeal(uncooked)salt and lemon juice. leave it on for 5 min and rub off.

buuuut, not to hard. once i removed live skin, lots of it, no scar though

129 Re: lightening progress on Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:35 am

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Yes___ I mean no is right a peel is similar to taking off a dirty coat and having a nice clean shirt on under it.

No 22 is not too young, its more important that you take care of your skin now so that years later your skin isn't like leather. Lol
With the ret a it is better to start at a low percentage so as not to irritate the skin then you can increase once you see how your skin reacts to it.

My opinion on antiaging creams are that they minimalize things such as crows feet not get rid of them.

You can also use lemon juice to lighten if you want a HP treatment

130 Re: lightening progress on Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:29 am

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Hi,

Okay, but I want to lighten my skin by two shades, so I think I might have to use somethign alittle stronger than lemon juice. Okay, so retin is great for anti-aging too right? Is it safe to use long term??

131 Re: lightening progress on Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:35 am

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PorcelainSkin asked
so retin is great for anti-aging too right?

thats what they say

Is it safe to use long term??

i don't know, but to tell you my opinion using anything for a long period of time does something, be safe and use it for a couple months then break to something else

132 Re: lightening progress on Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:42 am

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What can I use after retin that does the same job it says it will do?

PorcelainSkin

133 Re: lightening progress on Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:02 am

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Yes is righ using a chemical for long periods will do something.

With the ret a it basically helps the hq to penetrate the skin deeper. Hq, if I remember correctly, inhibits the cell melanin which is what gives skin color. You will shed the top layer and underneath will be a lighter layer of skin, this is where exfoliators come into play by hlping to shed the dead cells faster. Just so you know, it does dry out the skin so moisturize.

For an alternative I know of some that went to mq after achieving their desired color with hq but the ret a really helps to penetrate the skin.

134 Re: lightening progress on Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:04 am

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i think something like makeri...or something like that, but theres always HQ

135 Re: lightening progress on Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:11 am

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So what would you recommend if I want to go two shades lighter and something I can use long term? Can I get retin-a in any pharmacy or just specialized pharmacies? And can I get the peels anywhere as well? So I peel plus use exfoliators as well? And still use skin lightening creams right? How good is makari?

136 Re: lightening progress on Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:30 am

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retin a can be bought from alldaychemist.com with different %.
thats seems to be the only place, everyone orders from there. peels you can make or buy anywhere.

i have never used makari but golden girl does and her before and after pictures are amazing,like 4 5 shades at the lest

137 Re: lightening progress on Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:37 am

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Alldaychemist.com sells ret a
Amazon or ebay should have the peel or just google it
You don't have to peel with the creams but it does help, exfoliating helps by shedding dead skin cells much quicker then the 28 day cycle

138 Re: lightening progress on Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:46 am

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Where can I see photos of Golden Girl?

139 Re: lightening progress on Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:50 am

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Well there is a section of before and after photos but you have to reacha certain ranking, privileged I belive, to see them. She along with maharani is one of the moderators

140 Re: lightening progress on Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:52 am

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Yes I know Golden Girl, have spoken to her several times, I just have seen any photos. I would love to see the photos though Sad

141 Re: lightening progress on Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:04 am

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PorcelainSkin,

Not sure if you have mentioned this already but have you undertaken any sort of lightening regime before? And are you trying to remove sun damage, hyperpigmentation ? What sort of skin type do you have and what is your starting colour? Do you have a celebrity who you can compare your skin tone to?
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142 Re: lightening progress on Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:27 pm

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Porcelain skin here is some more info on hq
Hydroquinone is a skin-bleaching agent that is used to ighten areas of darkened skin such as freckles, chloasma lighten areas of darkened skin such as freckles, chloasma(also known as melasma), age spots, and acne scars. Hydroquinone is available as a 2% cream for topical application. Hydroquinone can be purchased from a application. Hydroquinone can be purchased from a pharmacy. The trade name in New Zealand is Eldoquin®. Some doctors' offices may sell other brands with concentrations up to 4%.

Hydroquinone works by decreasing the production and ncreasing the breakdown of melanosomes (melanin pigment granules) in the skin's pigment cells (melanocytes) pigment granules) in the skin's pigment cells (melanocytes) It does this by inhibiting the activity of tyrosinase, the enzyme needed to make melanin.

In most cases, lightening of skin should be seen after 4 weeks of treatment. Sometimes it may take longer to see any change but if no bleaching effect is seen after 3 months of treatment, you should stop using hydroquinone. treatment, you should stop using hydroquinone. To increase the effectiveness of hydroquinone you should stay out of the sun, or wear protective clothing and use a SPF50 sunscreen when outdoors. Do not use sunlamps or tanning salons It is important to use hydroquinone regularly as directed until you achieve the desired bleaching, after which use only s needed to maintain results. A few times a week should do it.

Test for skin sensitivity before using by applying the cream to a small patch of hyperpigmented skin. If no redness or tching occurs within 24 hours, begin treatment. Clean and dry the skin before applying a thin film of cream twice daily to the area(s) in need of bleaching. Rub into the skin well Apply just enough to cover the affected areas and avoid applying to normal skin, as this will lighten as well. Hence treatment. treatment. Do not apply near the eyes, mouth, and other mucous membranes Avoid using other medicated topical products (particularly peroxide products)on the same area at the same time peroxide products) on the same area at the same time unless directed to do so by your doctor When using non-medicated cosmetics, sunscreens, and moisturising lotions, apply hydroquinone first, then wait several minutes before applying them over the top.

Hydroquinone cream is very well tolerated. Some women may experience minor and temporary skin irritations ncluding mild itching or stinging and reddening of the skin including mild itching or stinging and reddening of the skin( irritant contact dermatitis). If these do not subside stop using the cream. Side effects that should warrant stopping the cream and seeking medical advice immediately include severe burning, tching, crusting, or swelling of treated areas (possible itching, crusting, or swelling of treated areas (possible allergic contact dermatitis) and any unusual skin discolouration. discolouration. Prolonged use of hydroquinone has been associated with the development of exogenous ochronosis (a persistent the development of exogenous ochronosis (a persistent blue-black pigmentation), especially in Africa, but this is rare.

143 Re: lightening progress on Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:35 pm

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Continued.......

. It might be due to( the ochronosis that is) other ingredients such as phenol, rare. It might be due to other ingredients such as phenol, resorcinol and antimalarial agents, which are known to resorcinol and antimalarial agents, which are known to cause ochronosis.

Do not use benzoyl peroxide, hydrogen peroxide, or other peroxide products when using hydroquinone. A temporary dark staining of the skin may occur. If accidentally used together, wash the skin with soap and water to remove the staining. staining. Hydroquinone creams may contain sodium metabisulphite that may cause serious allergic reactions (including anaphylaxis) in certain susceptible people. It also is not advised to use this if you are pregnant and/or breats feeding.


Well I hope that helped, mine fingers hurt from typing lol

144 Re: lightening progress on Sat Jun 05, 2010 3:11 am

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Hi,

Not sure if you have mentioned this already but have you undertaken any
sort of lightening regime before? And are you trying to remove sun
damage, hyperpigmentation ? What sort of skin type do you have and what
is your starting colour? Do you have a celebrity who you can compare
your skin tone to?


Yes, I have tried skin lightening regime before, in fact I only used to use a white soap and Derma gel plus, which really lightened my face, although it started burning my skin and left a few dark marks. I only used it on my face though so my face looked lighter than my body. I recently started using a cheap black soap for the entire body but i noticed that my arms are darker than before so i stop using it. now i just use a normal whitening & nourishing body milk for every day use. im also now using other cheap facial products, I am in Malaysia, so they are cheap locally made products but I havent seen much change. Plus i steam my face about twice weekly, put on a mask once in a while, and squeeze fresh lemon juice in my cleanser before i wash my face and i havent seen much change either. im actually getting a few rashes on my skin.. i would like to lighten my skin not only to get two shades lighter but also to remove a few pigmentation marks, remove the little pimples and rashes, get a radiant glow (im only 22 by the way) and also rid sun damage aswell. i have had great skin all my life but i also think the skin ligthening products i used were not good for long term and they contained high percentage of hq, and i used other skin ligtehning products (bio-claire without hq) and they did lighten me more on my face and not on my body.. i have a combination skin but lately its become very very oily.. my starting colour, i cant think of a celeb but i would describe it as an almond colour, like the colour of the skin outside the white part of the almond, so its a dark caramel colour.. i would like to go two shades lighter though.. i was ligter when i was young and i guess when i got older, i just became darker.. please help me!!

145 Re: lightening progress on Sat Jun 05, 2010 3:20 am

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Alizee Love,

Thank you so much for all ur info, my word, lol, you've helped alot. So would you advise me to use the hq 2% that i can get at any pharmacy as my facial moisturiser for skin lightening in addition to peels (lactic acid), exfoliation, etc?? What can I use as my facial wash though for whitening? Or can i also use it on my body? Or perhaps i can get a stronger concerntration of hq, perhaps 4% for my body instead? Is it safe to use hq for long term and maintenance once I've reached my desired skin tone? Do you use hq yourself?

PorcelainSkin

146 Re: lightening progress on Sat Jun 05, 2010 3:35 am

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i think alldaychemist has HQ 4%, cheap to. a lot of people put that on there bodies.
use papaya-based facial wash will help to lighten your face
you can also check out facial wash with Glutathione in the ingredients

147 Re: lightening progress on Sat Jun 05, 2010 4:10 am

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Well the 2% I'm not sure how well it works but if your not very dark and are worried on how your skin might react, a low percentage is a good place to start. I am going to use the hq, it has not yet arrived, but I did use fair& white which was reported to have 8% hq in it once before; I'm unsure of the percentage now. Since you live in the asian area I would think you could find Liksa soap which is supposed to work fairly well. Just remember to not rush through it; you don't want to damage your skin.

You can find cheap hq at alldaychemist.com for like $2 a tube but remember there is a standard $25 shipping fee so many buy in bulk to off-set the cost.

148 Re: lightening progress on Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:11 am

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Okay great, so I can just use Likas soap to wash my face, and apply a peel too, plus a hq facial moisturiser? so can i use the peel for my elbows n knees too? i have rather darker lips so i would like to lighten them as well, what can i use to lighten my lips? what do i use to wash my body with for ligtening and what body lotion can i also use in addition to sunscreen?

149 Re: lightening progress on Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:22 pm

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From what I know the Likas is used for your whole body, not just your face. As I said in earlier posts, you can use the peel on your knees and elbows. It is recomended you wait 3 to 4 days before you apply the peel and after you apply. For the lps I have no idea

150 Re: lightening progress on Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:31 pm

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Fantastic, thank you so much for the information.

Will definitely keep in touch,

Much love*

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