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HQ and RA LIGHTENING FAQS:


I want to know what my skin may look like if I use Hydroquinone (Hq) 4% and Retin-A (Ra)? Will I have the "bleached out" look that some people get with some bleaching products or will I be able to retain the appearance of my natural undertones?

Yes you can. I, as well as many others, have been able to do this. You have to be cautious not to lighten too quickly so that you will not have that "bleached out" look where you undertones are masked. Also, adding a good quality vitamin C (ascorbic acid or other quality vitamin C forms) serum can be added to your regimen and will help give your skin a lovely glow and will help your undertones to be more pronounced. And always use an effective sunblock high in spf to prevent the skin to redarken and protect it from UVA and UVB rays.

Where can I apply and not apply Hq and Ra?



Personally speaking, I just apply a little on the tip of my finger and apply it to the outer areas of my ears, behind the ears, neck, back of neck (including hairline) and any other area tha I am trying to lighten. I do not apply retin-a to the back of ears or neck because it burns and the skin is already quite thin there. Hq will lighten it just fine on it's own, but yes still apply sunblock there. Only places where you don't use either is areas such as mucous membranes areas: nose/nostril areas, in mouth and intimate parts, and not in the ears :-S. If theres an area your not sure about, feel free to ask.

If people begin to ask me how and why I am getting so light and fair, what should I say?



You can try to avoid this if you possibly can until things are even. But, some situations may be exposed and the only thing you can do while currently in the lightening process is to say your top half is paler because you dont get much sun or say nothing (best I can think of). While lightening DRAMATICALLY such as a few shades+, I remember asking about this situation. Well, people who know you will begin to notice. I usually do not try explaining myself unless asked...because that is my right and I do not pry in their business and ask them. But, when they do ask as people are naturally nosy by nature, I usually respond by saying that I have been going to the spa or dermatologist and getting acne and exfoliation treatments such as AHAs and so on...or that I am using exfoliators to help even my skin and help remove my discolorations, acne, and blemishes.

In which I am using exfoliators such as AHAs (latic acid). I'm also working on the appearance of my acne scars, stayin clear from acne breakouts, removing my blemishes and scars....I'm just lightening overall as well. Which is equally fine since people also tan their skin which can be more dangerous and even cancerous. Once you feel that you have reached your desired goal, you'll have to maintain your results (and this is with any lightener). Why? Because the skin cells are replaced on average every 28 days and will return to it's genetic color. Maintaining with an effective skin lightener 2-3 times weekly, an exfoliator, and always use sunblock every day before going out the same way we must brush our teeth daily to main our pearly whites.

Is Hq and Ra Expensive?



It is possible to use gels and cremes that cost under $100 and still achieve your results without paying really high prices for them. They can be purchased through certain reliable online websites usually between $2-15, plus shipping and handling. Hq and Retin-a are only one of the few methods to lighten the skin, as there are other methods as well.

Does Hydroquinone have steroids &/or mercury in them?



Hydroquinone is a chemical of itself and does not contain steroids or heavy metals. There are many products on the market that contains hq along with other ingredients such as steroids, mercury, &/or lead which may help increase lightening results but at a cost which may not be reversable.

What do people mean when they say "Hq Abuse"?



You can get quality hq and ra and it may work for you. I am currently using them now and I'm lightening quite well. Yes, this can be used when used safely, properly and not abused.

Examples of Hydroquinone abuse are:
-using hq in very high amounts
-knowingly or unknowingly used along with steroid or mercury products
-not using a quality sunblock high in spf every day (to prevent UVA/UVB exposure)
-not limiting the amount of sun exposure: when sun is limited and sunblock used you have a greater chance of continuing to achieve lightening results, maintain your results, and not causing your results to erverse and redarken
-applying hq several times a day on regular basis. Hq only need to be applied 1-2x daily
-Not using an exfoliator on a conistent basis
-If you happen to have an allergic reaction to hq or your skin is too sensitive to hq and you still continue to use this, like many other things your skin's condition may become worse. You'll have to discontinue use shortly if your skin is unable to tolerate hq and skin's condition becoming worse.

**There are several other factors of hq abuse, these are only a few to avoid (which also applies to all skin lighteners and exfoliators in general) in order to help increase your success in lightening your skin**

Do I have to use very high amounts of Hq to get good results? Are low amounts of Hq really effective?



No, there is no need to use very high amounts of Hq (such as 10%, 20%, or higher) on your skin and can actually cause damage the skin. You can use Hq 4% along with retin-a and still reach at the least close to your goal if you stick to this regimen, following the proper instructions, and over time with patience you can acheive this. This is the amount that dermatologists prescribe to their patients. There is no need to either use Hq 10%, and the high percentage hq can place your skin at higher risks of being damaged.

Can I just jump and use the highest strength Retin-a 0.1%, instead of having to use the lower strengths in order to get great results?



It is BEST to start off with a low strength of retin-a if you are not accustomed to using exfoliators, have sensitive skin, and hq has the tendency of making the skin more sensitive as well. Everyone' ki is different, so everyone will not be able to equally tolerate high strenth or mid strenth retin-a. Some people are not able to tolerate retin-a at all, and will have to use another exfoliant alternative.

The strengths are 0.025% being the mildest, 0.05% being the general strength used (I use this) and 0.1% being the strongest and not recommended to be used first, as the skin should build tolerance with retinoids and any other forms of exfoliators. Immediately jumping to the highest maximum strength can effect some people's skin in a negative way and cause burns and skin darkening due to the skin not given the chance to build tolerance. Not recommended.

Is Hq/Ra the ONLY way that I am able to lighten my skin?



Although this route is working for some, as well as myself, as well as many Hq negatives are myths and hq can be safely used....hq is not your only option.

Can I just apply sunblock sometimes and not all of the time when going out, since I am already lightening my skin?



ALWAYS use a good sunblock high in spf (use at least 55 or higher, prefer spf 70-100). Good brand is Neutrogena with Helioplex)



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yes___I mean no wrote:watcha find

yes.

hey it's 1.45 pm here i'm going to sleep.

bonne nuit.

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MAHARANI

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Viola, how often are you using the Retin A ? and you're using just a pea sized amount for an area like the face and neck ?

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MAHARANI wrote:Viola, how often are you using the Retin A ? and you're using just a pea sized amount for an area like the face and neck ?

I use it every night.My face is becoming so smooth.And the Clinique and exclusive serum I use have cleared the spots on my face very well.
The peeling is reducing too.

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Wow, I am surprised that you have been able to tolerate the 0.1% straight off. It sounds like all seems to be going well. Just keep an eye on it and cut back if necessary if you notice any irritation. I am sure that my 20g tube of retin A lasts me slightly more than a month when used nightly only, as I am just using it on my face and neck. Please do keep us updated on how you progress with it. I think it is one of the best things out there.

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MAHARANI wrote:Wow, I am surprised that you have been able to tolerate the 0.1% straight off. It sounds like all seems to be going well. Just keep an eye on it and cut back if necessary if you notice any irritation. I am sure that my 20g tube of retin A lasts me slightly more than a month when used nightly only, as I am just using it on my face and neck. Please do keep us updated on how you progress with it. I think it is one of the best things out there.

I know!
You can imagine me tolerating it like i have been using it before.Or maybe its cos I was already used to using lactic and glycolic acid peels.
So far,from Saturday till today Thursday,no irritations.I won't find it funny if i have any cos i have a place to go next week friday!
Will keep you updated.

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HQ makes more dark than befor, when you stop it ?

Dominicana

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khushbu wrote:HQ makes more dark than befor, when you stop it ?
Does it? I heard that before, but have you experienced that?

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Dominicana wrote:
khushbu wrote:HQ makes more dark than befor, when you stop it ?
Does it? I heard that before, but have you experienced that?


I've heard it but never used before.

i receved my HQ from ADC and planing to use it in the morning and MQ - RA in the evening. i just want to use it only for a short period of 2 months to achieve a great result and maintain it with MQ.


now i'm quite scared because i wouldn't like to ruine the result, achieved with MQ ,when i stop HQ. i think MQ is working , slowly but it does, so i'm trying to find an answer to my questions , but no body seems to have an experience of more darkening.

MAHARANI

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I have used HQ on and off in the past and in my experience do not think that using it made me darker than my starting complexion. I have not personally used it for months and months but I am sure that even GG can confirm that when she took a break from it, that she did not go beyond her starting complexion.

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MAHARANI wrote:I have used HQ on and off in the past and in my experience do not think that using it made me darker than my starting complexion. I have not personally used it for months and months but I am sure that even GG can confirm that when she took a break from it, that she did not go beyond her starting complexion.

Thank you, Maharani .

i was waiting for your answer , because i know that you and GG used it . i wanted to know your pointe of view befor start.

thanks agin .

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Do you always redarken? Even if you've only gotten your complexion up to its natural tone, anyway? Or do you mean for those exceeding their natural tone?

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If you have not gone beyond your natural tone it may be possible that less maintenance is needed. Obviously sun protection and avoiding it as much as possible will help prevent your skin from sustaining sun damage that may have caused the darker tone in the first place. Use of exfoliants like Retin A can help maintain the skin in good overall condition and may help towards maintaining the tone.

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MAHARANI wrote:If you have not gone beyond your natural tone it may be possible that less maintenance is needed. Obviously sun protection and avoiding it as much as possible will help prevent your skin from sustaining sun damage that may have caused the darker tone in the first place. Use of exfoliants like Retin A can help maintain the skin in good overall condition and may help towards maintaining the tone.
Thank you! You're so smart.

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To Dominicana and Viola,

how's the RA routine going?

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Its really good...
But i hate the peeling cos it is embarrassing when i wanna step out!lmao
My face is smooth!

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Well picture this..........I am talking to a collegue and he says, I think you need to wipe your nose..............OMG..........I only have peeling skin on my nose that looks like boogers !!!! I had to quickly say, oh no, it's just very dry skin and I try and brush it off. From that day, I made sure that my microfibre cloth gently whisked away any flaky areas. It can still be hard though, as the peeling skin can just show up at any time and as I am always having to smile as I greet customers, this just means they can manifest even more.

I am glad that it is all going good though. Experience any breakouts then?

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i don't mean to laugh but, tee he he he he

i hope that doesn't happen again

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LMAO
I cant stop laughing...
It is so embarrassing ...
I make sure I use my towel and some water to scrub off the peeling skin before steeping out.And I bearly use powder these days.Cos when your face is dry,that is when all is seen so clearly

MAHARANI

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Well I am glad that I have made you two laugh. It makes me laugh too, now, but at the time, I was absolutely mortified !!!

viola, I know what you mean about the powder settling into the flaky areas. I even find that sometimes my sun protection can highlight the peeling skin too. It is just that I have slightly sensitive skin, so I try not to be too clever with the microfibre cloth. I really don't want to damge any areas and triger hyper pigmentation. Fortunately no mishaps so far............

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Oh u r right about damaging an area and triggering hyper pigmentation.
I did that...on my toe
The thing is...last two weeks,I exfoliated this patch on my toe and then...i still use a lactic peel on it few minutes later.It stung ...but i stupidly left it there instead of quickly washing it off.You know what happened right???Yup...it burned that part an made it darker!!!!!!
I was so mad at myself.But it is fading away gradually.I put my feet in water and the skin gets soft,then i gently scrub it away and use 55h and the famous plastic bag technique!
But I am glad though...i am almost done.My next target is my knees...they lighten easily.Any ideas of what i should use?Still 55h? or???? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

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Well I guess if it ain't broke then why fix it, as they say. The body can be tough to lighten and if you have seen success with the 55h on your toes, then I would stick with what is working. Do let us know how you find it.

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Just thought I would mention to those using or considering Retin A that it's purging can manifest at any time. You may or may not know that I have been using Retin A for a while now and apart from the slight peeling, a couple of days of redness, it has been mainly trouble fee. Well this morning I have 2 big red spots, one on my cheek and one on my nose. Just goes to show how well this stuff pushes out impurities. I am not too troubled, as I know that they will clear up shortly, as I had a bit of purging at the beginning of using it. And this is from someone who virtually never gets spots.




I know some people go through a difficult purging stage and some give up thinking they cannot handle it or that their skin looks worse than when they started, but continue on and you will be really glad you did.




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Well just as I thought, the spots and the redness have completely gone. RA is really great stuff !!!


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