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1What do you guys think? Empty What do you guys think? Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:08 pm

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2What do you guys think? Empty Re: What do you guys think? Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:42 am

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I don't think that what this man has done suits him and he actually looks quite sickly. But I have to say that I find the manner of the DJ condescending. He is making fun of those who try to attain his so called "fair" colouring. How about asking why the girl who visited his place of work decided to do what she did. But I guess that would not be entertainment.


I could stand here with my slim self and see a larger female maybe squeezing into some body tightening suit trying to achieve my shape and laugh at what she was trying to do. How about me thinking why she might be doing it. I know it's not the same thing but it irks me when people like this DJ, who obviously are attractive and are content with their colouring make fun of someone trying to make the most of their appearance. Lord knows I have seen those same people with light light faces and dark hands but I am not gonna sit and judge and make fun. Clearly that makes them happy and we all know that this whole lightening business is not easy.

3What do you guys think? Empty Re: What do you guys think? Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:56 pm

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I agree he does look sickly and I am surprised that someone who is as big in his industry would have taken things that far. His skin looks deathly pale and this is one case I would say when he looked better darker definitely. I see your point with the DJ's comments but I suppose if you have never been in a situation of wanting something so badly no matter what, then it may be difficult to understand someones thinking behind why they do what they do

4What do you guys think? Empty Re: What do you guys think? Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:23 pm

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I have to say that I would not think that someone in his position would feel the pressure to go down this road anyway. It appears that he is established in his field and there is always less pressure on males to lighten. They can always get the girls regardless of what they look like LOL. I would love to know what prompted this action and whether he regrets that this has happened in the public eye

5What do you guys think? Empty Re: What do you guys think? Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:55 am

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its quite interesting that you bring this up GOTHQUEEN....I was just talking to a friend about Vybz Kartel and his skin lightening the other day...firt of all i dont think he did it properly and he more than likely used some cream in high hydroquinone percentages...eithr than or monobenzone...if he did however use monobenzone he was one of the lucky ones who attain an even skin tone...in that video you posed he looks horrible...but there are some pictures he looks ok in....

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6What do you guys think? Empty Re: What do you guys think? Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:59 am

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sorry about that....

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he admits and defends it... IN THE REPORT...ON THE VIDEO HE SAYS THAT ITS THE AIR CONDITIONER AND SOAP!!!! LMAO!! IF AIR CONDITIONER LIGHTENED SKIN I WOULD BE AS WHITE AS PAPER BY NOW!!!! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL...

AND CONTRARY TO POPULAR BELIEF THERE IS NO PILL ONE CAN TAKE TO ATTIN A LIGHTER COMPLEXSION. IT MUST BE TOPICAL...IN 2011 ANY WAYS! WHO KNOWS WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE BUT FOR NOW...ITS ONLY TOPICAL!

also its quite possible that he used good old fashion retin A 0.1% and hydroquninone 4%

7What do you guys think? Empty Re: What do you guys think? Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:48 pm

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The top picture really does not do him any favours, but yes the pic you posted does look a little better, though his lips still look badly discoloured in comparison to his new tone. I hate the way they mention that this is self hatred. The man has decided to change his tone, not kill himslef, so why make it a case of him hating himself. That means that anyone who does anything to "enhance" themselves must have some sort of self hate. I know it has been a drastic change but it's his skin and he is clearly old enough to decide what he does with it. If you don't like it then just don't look.

8What do you guys think? Empty Re: What do you guys think? Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:14 pm

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Can I just add though that if I was in his situation I don't think I would have the balls to do what he has done. He must have known there was going to be a big backlash. So obviously achieving this new tone was far more important to him no matter what the consequences. I think it is one thing to lighten so drastically when you are an unknown but someone like him, though I don't know him myself lol, must know it is going to be as bad as when MJ and others have gone through a major metamorphosis.

9What do you guys think? Empty Re: What do you guys think? Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:30 pm

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Actually maybe he knew thaat this is the reaction he would get. I am sure I am not the only one who had never hearad of him and now he has gotten our attention. I guess any publicity is good publicity. I have read that there are some fans who say they will no longer follow him but I am sure he has also gained a whole new following. And there will be some who will want to try what he used as well. I am certain of that.

10What do you guys think? Empty Re: What do you guys think? Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:59 am

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especially with him being from the caribbean....such a horrid place....

11What do you guys think? Empty Re: What do you guys think? Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:04 am

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thank you Gothqueen

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you brought up a good point that should make everyone think
he was on trace tv and ER for an interview and the journalist brought this up and they even showed those two pics
the journalist said "there are roumours you are white now" and he said "do i look white to you?"
and dam he doesnt look like that!!!
he looks LIGHT BROWN but not that pale like that!

they even showed his latest concert (google him) he doesnt look that white in colour...like @enticing said he looks sickly in the second pic...
on tv he doesnt look like that- he did a concert in 31st december 2010 in and didnt look like that.
somepics are just to fake to be true.

12What do you guys think? Empty Re: What do you guys think? Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:23 am

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I believe the pictures that's circulating is the one of him going thru his transition process like Sammy Sosa not the end product.

13What do you guys think? Empty Re: What do you guys think? Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:29 am

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guys take a look at this...



sammy sosa is not pale white...he's brown colored...the camera flashes go through the undertone...they're actually not "deathly pale" whatever that means..just light brown.

14What do you guys think? Empty Re: What do you guys think? Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:36 am

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I am speaking about the last picture here :[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

15What do you guys think? Empty Re: What do you guys think? Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:09 pm

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kassy I could not open that last link you posted cos my computer says the site poses a risk but I am so glad to see the post on Sammy Sosa. I actually think he looks really good. I knew that pic that was originally circulated was suspect. I have seen photos of me where I look much lighter than I am in real life. I could not understand the language spoken but I am sure I understood that Sammy mentioned "Flash"". So I am guessing that he is also putting the very pale colour of the photo down to a camera flash. And thanks Pinkbaby for pointing out that in other settings this vybz guy looks much darker than that photo being circulated.


It always makes me laugh that the media will jump on the worst pic and run with it. I came across a blog where the lady was ranting about what vybz has done to himself. But maybe if people had seen these other pics that maybe it wouldn't be "such" a big deal




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16What do you guys think? Empty Re: What do you guys think? Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:12 pm

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KIM wrote:Actually maybe he knew thaat this is the reaction he would get. I am sure I am not the only one who had never hearad of him and now he has gotten our attention. I guess any publicity is good publicity. I have read that there are some fans who say they will no longer follow him but I am sure he has also gained a whole new following. And there will be some who will want to try what he used as well. I am certain of that.


I totally agree though I am not sure it is "cake" soap, whatever that is !!!!


17What do you guys think? Empty Re: What do you guys think? Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:13 pm

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Enticing, loving the new "moody" pic !!!

18What do you guys think? Empty Re: What do you guys think? Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:04 am

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yeah! exactly what enticing said. he is not plain white like the camera is trying to achieve and one more thing, if vybz ever want to get WHITE AS MICHEAL JACKSON, i have a feeling all his fans in his concert will scream running out and all security guards will think there is a fire in the concert!!! hahaha
sammy looks ok but he wasnt ugly when he was dark lol

19What do you guys think? Empty Re: What do you guys think? Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:07 am

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Wow !!! Sammy Sosa looks so good. His skin in that video is a great tone. Just goes to show that the camera CAN lie !!! Wish I could undertstand what he was saying when they threw up that pic.

I am hearing you guys on having taken photos that made me look much paler than I was. This happened when I was on makari and I did look almost as pale as my white friend. Never did understand why.

20What do you guys think? Empty Re: What do you guys think? Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:28 pm

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Oh some less flattering pics


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21What do you guys think? Empty Re: What do you guys think? Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:30 pm

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Did you notice his knuckles in one of the pics. Makes me think that it is something topical he is using. I think Enticing said that too.

22What do you guys think? Empty Re: What do you guys think? Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:50 am

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i am not a fan of dark nuckles lol
it is like you are running away from your colour not just trying to get lighter.
why lighten your whole body and forget about finding the right thing for your nuckles? and there is lots of AHA and whitening creams for that, im sure he can afford them lol
and normally dark nuckles happen when you lighten topically and not grudually or naturally.

23What do you guys think? Empty Re: What do you guys think? Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:16 am

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JESUS CHRIST IN MY BATHROOM ON A FRIDAY A DURING FEBRUARY BLIZZARD!!!!

STEROIDS!!!!!!!! OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!! SWELLING FACE!!!! MORE BUTTONS ON HIS FACE THAN A SHIRT!!!! OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!! HE NEEDS TO SWITCH REGIMENS...I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AND I TOTALLY SEE WHERE HE'S COMMING FROM BUT IF HE DOESN'T CEASE AND DESIST DARK KNUCKLES WILL BE THE LEAST OF HIS PROBLEMS!!!!!

24What do you guys think? Empty Re: What do you guys think? Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:40 pm

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makes me think that he has not been made privy to what other successful celebrity skin lighteners have been using.

25What do you guys think? Empty Re: What do you guys think? Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:37 pm

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Enticing wrote:guys take a look at this...



sammy sosa is not pale white...he's brown colored...the camera flashes go through the undertone...they're actually not "deathly pale" whatever that means..just light brown.


He was obviously weraing studio make up to give him a more flawless colour than demonstrated with the later pictures. Shame like you said Gothqueen that he has not been given the celebrity info that would give him the even tone that he is clearly chasing. I am sure he has the dollars to make it happen. I wonder whether for the more darker tones that more aggressive action is needed and this is why they are not as successful as other celeb lighteners, i.e resorting to steroids like you said Enticing

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