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1 Anyone noticed this too? on Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:58 pm

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I am sure you are all tired of hearing me moaning about fair and flawless but I noticed that on their website that they state that their products do NOT contain hydroqinone or mercury but NO mention of NO steroids. Does this confirm what we have been suspecting then? This is a quote from the website



At Fair & Flawless, we take a holistic approach to our formulations. That is why our skin whitening and skin bleaching products do not contain the damaging and toxic chemicals hydroquinone and mercury. All of our products are botanically based and as a result are safe, natural and gentle.

2 Re: Anyone noticed this too? on Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:00 pm

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And apologies if I am getting on anyone's nerves.I am just so mad at the moment. My skin does not look good

3 Re: Anyone noticed this too? on Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:52 am

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You may well be on to something. This way they can't get sued if it ever did turn out that steroids were indeed included as they haven't specified that they are not part of any of their ingredients. I am sure no one is tired of hearing your thoughts. We all need to be made aware of any concerns.
That's what a forum is for afterall

4 Re: Anyone noticed this too? on Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:31 am

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I strongly belive so...I'd bet both my legs on it! u see steroids ARE recommended by dermatologist only to be used for a very short period of time!!! kligman one of the world's most renowned dermatologist invented the "kligman formula" which contained...hydroquinone, tretinoin and the "steroid" (there are different steroids one can use)...he stated one could get good results with Hydroquione and tretinoin alone, but the steroid would spead things up...

now the problem with fair and flawless is that they're very ambiguous with their statements and responses to questions which SCREAMS DANGER TO ME!!!!!because if people are giving answers which are open to all forms of interpretations or answers which are not clear or straight forward it can only mean one thing...they dont think people are gonna like the answers, and if they dont like the answers they're not going to buy! steroids can be legally placed in cosmetics becuase steroids are one of the agents highly recommened to fight skin inperfections...but they ARE NOT TO BE USED LONG TERM!!!! now COMES THE HORROR MOVIE!!!! if you dont know something has steroids you're gonna be using all the days of your life! not knowing how much damage you're doing...see what I MEAN??? Fair and Flawless is shameless!!!!

what has happened in the past AND IS STILL HAPPENING TODAY...is that people are using products which contain hydroquinone and STEROIDS AS WELL AS MERCURY!!! when they end up looking Quasimodo hydroquinone gets the bad name and is demonized! see? and people deny themselves AFFORDABLE PRODUCTS WHICH ACTUALLY DELIVER GREAT RESULTS SAFELY! the so called "natural" products dont hold a candle to hydroquinone and they are grossly over priced!!!! those that do give spectacular results DONT CONTAIN ONLY NATURAL AGENTS! and if you guys think steroids are bad...the DEVIL IS MERCURY!!! you literally go insane then you die! PERIOD!!!

dont worry yogi! the hydroquinone and Tretinoin will clear your skin RIGHT UP!!! I WAS AFRAID TOO MY SKIN LOOKED MONSTROUS!!!! I Was worried that not even hydroquinone and Tretinoin could help me...but they did! majority of the time most side effects that come with steroids will cease and damage can be reversed once one stops using the steroid or product which contains the steroid(s)! so you'll be fine....just be thankful that your skin hasn't thinned beyond repare...becuase that happened to me in the past and I could not put on my JEANS PANTS WITHOUT GETTING BRUISED!!! YES JUST MY JEANS PANTS DID THAT!!! AND I HAVE THE SCARS TO PROVE IT! THANKFULLY THEY'RE GOING AWAY!!!! just dont use their products any more and advise others not to do the same!

I know its hard! people cant believe their eyes when they start fair and flawless! their products are extremely tantalizing!!!! I remember when I first started them I thought I had died and gone to heaven and no one could tell me different! "stop? stop using fair and flawless! NEVER!!! FOR THE FIRST TIME GUYS ARE LOOKING AT ME!!! NO WAY!" Ondine and many others warned me...it just wasn't possible! someone cant lighten 3 shades in a week!! the skin has not had time to turn over...but me being excited and sooo happy after years of ridicule would have sold my soul for results! and I finally got them...boy oh boy did I learn...

slow and steady wins the race....and it might take me a year...I cant wait...I'll have fun getting there...my skin will be beautified without swelling, stretch marks, thinning, liver failure, vision problems and God knows what else! and if I decide to stop my skin wont get dark over night! look out guys...look out for the signs...when you buy certain soaps or moisturizers or any thing look out for changes in your skin or face any thing!!!! be careful and share your expiernces!!!

5 Re: Anyone noticed this too? on Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:50 am

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So theres hope for me. I was using something which I now think contained steroids or similar. My skin got very light but later on it fucked up my skin. sorry for my language but that is how I feel. I got veins, marks, red tender skin and I look a mess. I am now using hydro and RA but don't seeem to be getting anywhere. I walk with my head down because I feel like everyone is wondering what the h*ll happened to that girl!!!!!!! People I know do look at me hard but so far haven't yet asked any thing. Maybe I look dat bad they don't wanna upset me more.

6 Re: Anyone noticed this too? on Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:53 am

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yogi I don't think you have gotten as bad as me but I understand totally how you are feelling. I have been reading your posts and I am not looking forward to xmas either. I feel like scrooge right now

7 Re: Anyone noticed this too? on Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:09 pm

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angeleyes wrote:So theres hope for me. I was using something which I now think contained steroids or similar. My skin got very light but later on it fucked up my skin. sorry for my language but that is how I feel. I got veins, marks, red tender skin and I look a mess. I am now using hydro and RA but don't seeem to be getting anywhere. I walk with my head down because I feel like everyone is wondering what the h*ll happened to that girl!!!!!!! People I know do look at me hard but so far haven't yet asked any thing. Maybe I look dat bad they don't wanna upset me more.

yes there is hope for everyone...its interesting that the site didn't filter your profanity but if I say the word "h*ll" it is filtered...see what I mean?...are you a privileged member here? just asking LOL...but ya you should be fine...

its soooo horrible when I hear stories like that...when people dont know...PEOPLE JUST DONT KNOW...Ignorance is the greatest Atrocity which exists in the cosmos! its such a bad thing when people dont know...when one is unaware...what you DONT know CAN hurt you! and we go on using these products because we trust these companies and we actually think that they have our best interest at heart!

Autodidacticism!!!!!! EDUCATE YOUR SELVES!!!

8 Re: Anyone noticed this too? on Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:14 pm

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angeleyes JUST BE CONSISTENT WITH THE HYDROQUINONE/TRETINOIN REGIMEN!!! JUST BE CONSISTENT...APPLY TWICE TO THREE TIMES A DAY...AND YOU WILL SEE A VAST IMPROVEMENT!

9 Re: Anyone noticed this too? on Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:38 am

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I am so glad that you guys understood what I was trying to say. I feel a bit like a broken record but if it means that someone else does not fall into this as well then at least there will be one less person suffering like I am right now.


@angleyes I am sorry to hear that you are having problems too. I am stil not getting into the festive spirit and feel like a grouch for it too. lol. I just keep praying that I will wake up in the morning and run to the mirror and actually like what I am seeing Shocked I am in a slightly better mood today for some reason. Hope it lastssssssssssss lol

10 Re: Anyone noticed this too? on Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:41 am

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And I thought I was the only one walking around with their head down. Mind we don't bump into each other lol

11 Re: Anyone noticed this too? on Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:44 pm

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****** NEWS FLASH *****


Well it appears that somebody had the 5 XF tested by a chemist and found it to contain clobestol proportionate (excuse spelling) but basically that is what I believe was contained in the dreaded Bio Claire. At least Bio claire had the decency to sell their product at a decent price. FAIR AND FLAWLESS should be ashamed. Allowing people to unwittingly put such a strong steroid in their product is outrageous. Everyone should boycott their products and be aware of how wicked this company truly is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wicked wicked wicked and now I know exactly why they omitted to write the words steroids in the list of products that are NOT contained in their products. WICKED WICKED WICKED



12 Re: Anyone noticed this too? on Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:38 am

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yogi wrote:****** NEWS FLASH *****


Well it appears that somebody had the 5 XF tested by a chemist and found it to contain clobestol proportionate (excuse spelling) but basically that is what I believe was contained in the dreaded Bio Claire. At least Bio claire had the decency to sell their product at a decent price. FAIR AND FLAWLESS should be ashamed. Allowing people to unwittingly put such a strong steroid in their product is outrageous. Everyone should boycott their products and be aware of how wicked this company truly is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wicked
wicked wicked and now I know exactly why they omitted to write the words steroids in the list of products that are NOT contained in their products. WICKED WICKED WICKED


Good god!!! Ondine needs to read this!!! she needs to comment....SHAMELESS!!!! THESE PEOPLE ARE SHAMELESS!!!! OH MY GOD!!!!!! MY MY MY...WHEN I THINK OF WHAT I ALMOST DID TO MY SELF!!! NEVER AGAIN!

13 Re: Anyone noticed this too? on Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:39 am

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THANK YOU SOOO MUCH FOR POSTING yogi!!!

14 Re: Anyone noticed this too? on Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:59 am

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yogi wrote:****** NEWS FLASH *****


Well it appears that somebody had the 5 XF tested by a chemist and found it to contain clobestol proportionate (excuse spelling) but basically that is what I believe was contained in the dreaded Bio Claire. At least Bio claire had the decency to sell their product at a decent price. FAIR AND FLAWLESS should be ashamed. Allowing people to unwittingly put such a strong steroid in their product is outrageous. Everyone should boycott their products and be aware of how wicked this company truly is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wicked wicked wicked and now I know exactly why they omitted to write the words steroids in the list of products that are NOT contained in their products. WICKED WICKED WICKED





thanks for this flash !

i'v got a same reaction with 5xf than bio clair. i'v mention that in my post but people don't trust me because i'v talking withaout any lab evidents. but i'm glad that my body is a big lab it react with a fragrance of stéroid.

15 Re: Anyone noticed this too? on Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:02 pm

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khushbu I do remember you mentioning that you had a bad reaction and that you suspected that it contained something it shouldn't. Maybe we should have you as our official tester. Only joking !!! Far too many bad things out there. I am glad I came across this information. I have read too many horror stories about Bio Claire to know that F & F including it in their product is BAD NEWS. But I have to repeat how comes a company that states that their so called "natural" ingredients are so potent, then has to resort to adding such a powerful steroid in order to get results.


It makes me wonder what else of theirs contains God knows what. I remember the story about someone mentioning that F & F employs a gentleman who just adds all sorts to the concoctions. It wouldn't be as bad if they were not charging extortionate prices.

16 Re: Anyone noticed this too? on Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:41 pm

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so sad...

17 Re: Anyone noticed this too? on Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:53 pm

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This is really terrible news. I have read so much about bio claire to know that it caused a lot of problems. I rememebr when there were so many people trying it out saying how light they got. Even I got tempted until the bad stories started filtering through. I can't believe that a "high" end company could be including that steroid. It is shocking.

hey enticing how comes you're priviliged now????? lol. Have you seen the before and after album yet. That is what I have been waiting for.

18 Re: Anyone noticed this too? on Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:34 am

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KIM wrote:hey enticing how comes you're priviliged now????? lol. Have you seen the before and after album yet. That is what I have been waiting for.


I dont know how that happened....hold i'm gonna put up the before and after album in a sec!!!

19 Re: Anyone noticed this too? on Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:15 am

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HERE U GO KIM AND EVERYONE!!!!

AS PROMISED MY PICTURES BEEFORE AND AFTER OF SKIN LIGHTENING!

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

I THINK I GOT A LITTLE DARKER DUE TO THE FACT THAT I STOPPED USING THAT HORRID STEROID AND HORRID FAIR AND FLAWLESS...BUT THIS WAY I CAN ACTULLY PHYSICALLY DEPIGMENT!!! AND NOT HAVE ILLUSION OF A LIGHTER SKIN TONE...I CANT WAIT FOR THIS REGIMEN TO REALLY START KICKING IN!! I'M GONNA ADD Aziderm Cream 20 TO MY HQ/RA REGIMEN!!! WHOOHOOO!!!!

20 Re: Anyone noticed this too? on Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:30 am

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Enticing wrote:so sad...


so glad... to see you in your avatar !!!


a huge diffrence , bitween befor& after, like two diffrent person. thanks for the pic.

21 Re: Anyone noticed this too? on Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:33 am

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so glad... to see you in your avatar !!!


a huge diffrence , bitween befor& after, like two diffrent person. thanks for the pic.

awww thank you khushbu! thats what Ondine said....totally different person for real..the pic where i'm balled i was 15!!! that was 6 years ago!!! omg omg omg sometimes I look at that pic and I look in the mirror....totally different person!!!

22 Re: Anyone noticed this too? on Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:46 am

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have you used only f&f ? or other product to get this result ?

how many shad have you lighten ?



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23 Re: Anyone noticed this too? on Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:49 am

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I would not recommend fair and flawless since that stuff contains steroids...yogi made the discovery as to what exact steroid it contained. I have lightened about 4 shades thus far.

24 Re: Anyone noticed this too? on Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:02 am

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i also want my skin 3 shades lighter, but i wonder if i can achive my goal with HQ+RA ? if yes ...how long will it take ? my mind is full of answerless questions.

5xf lighten me one shade in a month but i becom my original color since i stoped it. i'm trying to maintain with suntan removal, but it's less effective. so hard ...

25 Re: Anyone noticed this too? on Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:40 pm

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Hey enticing you're a cute fella LOL. You have lightened beyond recognition. You are lucky that you look hot both ways but I understand why you lighten. I know what it's like to get noticed quicker rather than someone having to study you before they think you're worth checking out LOL You give me hope about this regime as I feel that I have done a lot of damage with my previous regimen.

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